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IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby csdkw0 » Sun 31 May 2015, 00:47

I was disconnected after editing JCL and entering...

sub;swap;st;prefix *DK*

in an attempt to limit the view of jobs to those containing my initials "DK".
This apparently violates "attempt to view other users jobs/datasets".
My jobname was ISDKWnnn (nnn=some 3 digit number).

Could I please be reinstated ?
I have entered

prefix

safely in the past, yielding a list of all jobs.
Is there an allowed command/syntax to restrict the list of jobs viewed in SDSF ?

Regards,
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby steve-myers » Sun 31 May 2015, 02:26

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$HASP373 ISDKWJO  STARTED - INIT 1    - CLASS A - SYS SYS1         
ISF527E SDSF server ISDKWJO not started, START command must be used.
ISF515E SDSF initialization failed for server ISDKWJO.
What did you think – if you thought at all – trying to run the SDSF server task in a batch job? The admins consider this to be suspicious behavior. That's why the ID was banned. You may have been a hot shot systems guy in another life, but here you are just another ordinary user with no special privileges. If you can persuade the admins it's a good idea – unlikely – they will prepare the SDSF server and run in as a started task. Other than the BCT188M job there are no long running batch jobs; it is probably not a good idea to run never ending tasks as a batch job. BCT188M only slipped by for the userid; it submits 5 jobs a day.

By the way, it is

prefix isdkw*

not what you tried.

By the way, the admins noticed a similar, though failed, attempt to do this several days ago and nearly banned your ID then.
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby prino » Sun 31 May 2015, 20:51

Three observations:

1) your RACF user name, Darrell K Walker seems somehow familiar from IBM mailing lists
2) an experienced programmer would never ever execute SDSF in batch as a procedure, but he or she would use PGM=SDSF (or one of its ALIAS'es)
3) using a totally irrelevant steplib

Combine the three, and the possible conclusion might be that you're a newbie pretending to be an experienced programmer, which totally justifies the fact that you've been revoked.
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby csdkw0 » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 11:47

Hi guys,

Hotshot... no but, yes doing this kinda stuff elsewhere. Been at it professionally 30+ years so, name may have appeared in/at IBM.
Here's what I'm trying... you be the judge.

Use SDSF or DFDSS to build a list of my datasets.
The report would be edited by a CLIST|REXX to process each dataset named
1) generate+run JES2 'TRANSMIT' exporting named dataset to a temporary dataset
2) generate+run FTP commands to
a) create and/or select subfolders for each qualifier of the dataset name except last
b) create file name from LLQ.dsorg
c) push the XMIT'd dataset to the file in a nested subfolder on a thumbdrive

This exercise would facillitate capturing my body of work from a former job site.
I'd run SDSF in batch before but, don't have access to the JCL I used.
I didn't remember it being very involved so, I thought error messages would jog my memory.
That's it in a nutshell.

The "prefix *DK*" was habit as I had more latitude with jobnames in the past.

Regards,
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby steve-myers » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 13:37

csdkw0 wrote:Hi guys,

Hotshot... no but, yes doing this kinda stuff elsewhere. Been at it professionally 30+ years so, name may have appeared in/at IBM.
Here's what I'm trying... you be the judge.

Use SDSF or DFDSS to build a list of my datasets.
The report would be edited by a CLIST|REXX to process each dataset named
1) generate+run JES2 'TRANSMIT' exporting named dataset to a temporary dataset
2) generate+run FTP commands to
a) create and/or select subfolders for each qualifier of the dataset name except last
b) create file name from LLQ.dsorg
c) push the XMIT'd dataset to the file in a nested subfolder on a thumbdrive

This exercise would facillitate capturing my body of work from a former job site.
I'd run SDSF in batch before but, don't have access to the JCL I used.
I didn't remember it being very involved so, I thought error messages would jog my memory.
That's it in a nutshell.

The "prefix *DK*" was habit as I had more latitude with jobnames in the past.

Regards,

  • Use SDSF or DFDSS to build a list of my datasets.
    SDSF will do nothing of the sort. I suppose DFDSS would do that, though it would be very inefficent.
  • generate+run JES2 'TRANSMIT' exporting named dataset to a temporary dataset
    • TRANSMIT is a TSO command. It is JES2 only in the sense it may use JES2 only as a data transmission agency. The JES2 in Fandezhi does not communicate with any other system or entity. The JES2 in Fandezhi has no ability to use TCPIP. That was added in z/OS V1R7; Fandezhi is z/OS V1R6.
    • The only temporary data set TRANSMIT creates is to hold an IEBCOPY unload of a PDS.
  • generate+run FTP commands to ...
    • In the Fandezhi system you can only run the FTP client to communicate with a remote FTP server. I rather doubt you have an FTP server on your workstation. As I understand it the only time there was an FTP server in the Fandezhi system was before I started using it 5 years ago. It was shut down because of some sort of security problem.
    • The Filezilla FTP server seems to be the only more or less public domain FTP server for Windoze; it is so laden with malware and c***ware I wouldn't touch it with a 3 meter pole.
    • create file name from LLQ.dsorg. Huh? I don't see much value in that!
  • This exercise would facillitate capturing my body of work from a former job site.
    How? These are tasks you would perform to save the data, not restore it.
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby csdkw0 » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 15:33

Hi,

SDSF "PRINT" would convert SYSOUT of DFDSS (or other JCL) to a dataset.
Sorry that I misspoke.

TSO 'TRANSMIT' can create a fixed block "export" of just about any(?) dataset on the current/same JES2 node.
Sorry for suggesting it is a JES2 command.

Windows 7 comes with a configurable FTP server or at least mine did.

LLQ.dsorg was meant to imply the lowest level (i.e. last) qualifier of the named dataset DOT the letters for the dataset organization
e.g. ISDKW.CNTL.JCL =>FTP=> F:/.../ISDKW/CNTL/JCL.PO

On Fandezhl this would be a proof of concept exercise, to be exploited on a different system.

Please accept my apologies and attempt at clarity.
There are admittedly details to be worked out but, this was my general direction.

Regards,
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby prino » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 15:51

Steve,

I believe, based on the explanations given, that this might be a genuine user, as opposed to the hordes of South-American and Indian dimwits creating accounts, so I suggest we suggest the to the admins that he is reinstated for now.

As for for comments about FileZilla Server, if you download it from SourceForge but opt-out from their installer, it's a stable and secure product. I've been using it for half a decade and it's never given me any grief. I'm using it together with DynDNS to give myself a semi-static ftp address and that works like a charm.
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby prino » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 15:52

csdkw0 wrote:Windows 7 comes with a configurable FTP server or at least mine did.

Only in W7 Pro, as part of IIS. Wouldn't touch it with a bargepole anyway. :)
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby csdkw0 » Fri 05 Jun 2015, 16:33

Hi guys,

Appreciate the consideration(s).
I hope to improve my behavior towards becoming a better user.
Also, thanks for the IIS, FileZilla and DynDNS tip(s).

Regards,
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby steve-myers » Sat 06 Jun 2015, 00:15

Darrell - It appears ISDKW is no longer "banned." However, the z/OS userid and its data sets were deleted June 1. You'll have to delete the ID using this site to remove the ID from this web site's data base and then get a new ID.
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Re: IKJ56420I Userid ISDKW not authorized to use TSO

Postby prino » Sat 06 Jun 2015, 09:50

steve-myers wrote:Darrell - It appears ISDKW is no longer "banned." However, the z/OS userid and its data sets were deleted June 1. You'll have to delete the ID using this site to remove the ID from this web site's data base and then get a new ID.

Note that deleting the old one, despite it having been removed from the z/OS system, is still required, as it's still somewhere in another system!
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